Limited range in the water

[Awbee]

Title says all but eh.

In reality, water (or liquid) is more heavier than the air, so water gives you more resistance than the air. Such as: Difference between walking on the road and walking in the water.

So guns in underwater should limit its effective ranges up to 10 meters.

[AtomSplinter]

Maybe 30 meters. Wdk how water physics will be tweaked tho.

[Peedeoo7]

I was actually thinking about this, I was thinking prehaps a speargun could be added for underwater combat (breaks leg, causes player afflicted to sink, alongside 76 base dmg?), alongside bows (which I think have slightly better ballistics underwater?) Being the primary ranged weapons under the seas.

Also grenades, increase there blast radius underwater, as there actually more lethal underwater aince the shockwave rupture creatures much more effectively.

[anon24515308]

As I said on a similar post

@anon24515308

We don’t know how ballistics will work in 4.X, but if drag (bullets slowing down as they travel) is a factor, and if damage is related to the speed of a bullet on impact, then bullets should suffer from extreme drag while in water. Weapons made for underwater combat needn’t have different ballistics above or below water, just have low enough drag that even while in water, they would remain effective.

[AtomSplinter]

@Peedeoo7

alongside bows (which I think have slightly better ballistics underwater?)

In fact, no. Water can deviate bullets, and stops arrows very quickly.

[Peedeoo7]

Can you link a online post stateing arrows (or bolts) are worse than bullets underwater?

Not practical, but worse.

Personaly I know little myself.

[AtomSplinter]

Never mind, just made a quick research. You’ve got a point there.

[MoltonMontro]

To clarify for people, very simply put:

An arrow launched from a compound bow is going to do nothing underwater. Friction is going to be far too much on the long, slender arrow and the wide, flat bow limbs. You’d be a bit better off outside the water shooting into it, or, better yet, just use a speargun.

A bullet launched underwater will be more effective, but not quite practical. At that point, actual underwater firearms will be your best bet. Those underwater firearms may also be better than a speargun. However, outside of water, underwater firearms become more inaccurate than typical firearms. Underwater pistols suffer the most, but are easier to maneuver with when actually underwater than an underwater rifle would be.

In a nutshell: neither would really do all that much, with most projectiles only travelling a few feet. Comparing the effectiveness of guns vs. bows, a bow has too much “going on.”