Melee Suggestions

Introduction

Hey, been a while since I’ve actually dedicated some time to making one of these, so here we go. As melee is currently one of the things being worked on, I thought I’d make this.

(Note: All suggested keybinds are default for standardization purposes)


Combat

Move Sets

Basic Attack

A basic melee attack, executed using LMB. Certain weapons may have different variation in attack pattern. See weapon types for differences in how weapons perform.


Charged Attack

Charged attacks are performed by holding LMB. This not only increases the damage done by the attack, but also increases the recovery time, dependent on how long the attack keybind is held. Charged attacks with bludgeoning weapons also have a higher chance to stun or stagger non-player enemies. Charged attacks are also guardbreakers, when hitting a person who is blocking, it drops their guard and renders them vulnerable to a follow up attack.


Parry

Parries are performed by clicking or holding RMB. Parries will block full frontal melee and thrown weapon attacks, dependent on the length of the weapon used to block. Holding a parry becomes less effective the longer you hold it and is only effective against weapons of a lower weight class, and will only reduce damage against heavier weapons. Damage reduced or negated is dependent on the weapon’s weight class against the attacking weapon’s weapon class, see weapon types for details.


Weapon Types

Damage Types

Slashing

These weapons are all weapons with blades designed for cutting or slashing, such as most knives, sabers, and axes. These cause a bleeding effect upon hit.


Piercing

These weapons are all weapons with blades designed for thrusting and piercing, such as spears, pikes, and rapiers. These are more effective against armor.


Bludgeoning

These weapons are blunt weapons, such as baseball and cricket bats. These can stagger non-player enemies.


Special

These weapons don’t fit in any of the aforementioned categories, and include weapons such as blowtorches and chainsaws. Note that fists are counted as light and blunt melee weapons by default.


Weight Classes

Light

These weapons are, as their name implies, the lightest type of weapon there is, and have the fastest attack speed and recovery time. Light melee weapons can only negate the damage from another light weapon on a successfully timed parry. Melee attacks performed with a handgun (such as a pistol whip) are light weapon attacks.


Medium

These weapons have a balanced attack speed and recovery time. Medium melee weapons can only negate the damage from light and another medium weapon on a successfully timed parry. Melee attacks performed with a long firearm such as a shotgun, whether it be a bayonet or the butt, are medium weapon attacks.


Heavy

These weapons have a slow attack speed and slow recovery time. Heavy melee weapons can negate the damage from all melee and thrown weapons on a successfully timed parry. Due to their nature, however, heavy weapons also have a slower parry animation.


Weapon Lengths

One-Handed

These weapons cover only the upper body and head when parrying, and don’t protect the legs.


Hand-and-a-Half

A transition between one-handed and two-handed weapons, these weapons are held as two-handed weapons on their own, but can also be paired with another weapon or a shield in dual-wielding.


Two-Handed

These weapons are typically polearms, and cover the entire body when parrying.


Miscellaneous

Thrown Weapons

Almost all melee weapons can also be thrown weapons. Changing the firemode switches the weapon from melee to thrown. Thrown weapons can also be charged.


Shields

Shields are a special type of defensive weapon, and can also be one or two-handed. Holding a parry raises the shield and this parry is effective no matter how long it’s held. Atacking with a shield is a shield bash and this attack can also be charged, though this does minimal damage. Charged shield bashes can knock non-player enemies of comparable size to the player off of their feet. One-handed shields can also be…thrown.


Dual-Wielding

The player can only dual-wield two one-handed weapons (hand-and-a-half weapons are counted as one-handed when dual-wielding). When dual-wielding two melee weapons, attacking alternates between the two weapons, and RMB parries with the weapon that is most effective at parrying. When wielding a melee weapon and a shield, attacking is always done with the weapon and blocking is always done with the shield. When dual-wielding a melee weapon and a handgun, LMB attacks with the weapon in the left hand and RMB attacks with the weapon in the right hand, and the player loses functionality with both parrying and aiming down sights. When dual-wielding, no weapons can be thrown.


Polling

Attacking and Parrying Interactions

  • I liked the suggested interactions
  • I have some reservations, but I’m open towards the idea
  • I don’t like this at all
  • Null option

0 voters


Weapon Classifications

  • I liked the sugggested weapon classifications
  • I’m fine with whatever
  • I don’t like them at all
  • Null option

0 voters


Shields

  • Shields are cool
  • I’m fine either way
  • I don’t like shields
  • Null option

0 voters


Throwing Weapons

  • I like the idea as suggested
  • I’m cool if it becomes a thing, cool if it doesn’t
  • I don’t like it at all
  • Null option

0 voters


Dual-Wielding

  • This seems like something I can get behind
  • I’m fine if it gets added, fine if it doesn’t
  • I don’t like it at all
  • Null option

0 voters


Charged Chainsaw Attack

  • Hell yeah
  • Hell no
  • Null option

0 voters


For Nelson

  • I thought these ideas are perfect for the melee system I was envisioning
  • This is along the lines of what I was thinking of
  • Cold, colder than Antarctica

0 voters


Conclusion

I’ll be heading off to university next month, so this will likely be the first and last major suggestion post that I make for a while. GHJ, I’m starting to get how you felt a while back. Thanks for reading this, whatever this is. Well structured text wall? Unintelligible blabbering? I don’t know anymore. Alright, hope you guys enjoyed reading this.

5 Likes

I think you should be able to parry only with a shield and the heavier weapons should do more damage to armor and have a easier time breaking a defense of the other player.

Nah, just use your fists like real men

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If by that you mean that real men are fine with being cut down by others with weapons, by all means, be my guest.

Would you be able to parry with a gun? If so, then nobody will counter the charged piercing medium two-handed banzai charge :smiling_imp:

isn’t all of this a tad bit too complex?

In what way is this “too complex?” This seems perfectly fine to me.

The wording might seem a bit complex, but I think I’ve done a rather good job of making a simple melee system that’s not too hard to get used to.

Here, basically it boils down to this:
LMB = Attack
Hold LMB = Charged Attack
RMB = Parry
Hold RMB = Block

You can parry an attack but parrying a charged attack throws you off and leaves you open for a bit. Then it comes down to the different weapons. Weight determines which weapons can block which weapons, and length determines how much area you cover when you block/parry.

3 Likes

1: This could tie into other sets of equipment. Riot, ballistic, improv shields…
2: Why can’t I throw pommels?
3: probably the hardest part is balancing. Too many types is too much work and risks redundancy/outright useless items