Now I have seen a lot of opinions on if the game should be simple or more complicated
Iv sen some people say that “survival games should not be complicated” and that it is better if they are more simple, but why? why is it better if they are simple and Where is the border between simple and
to complicated.
And what is wrong/bad with more indepth or complicated features like:
For example: Different bullet calibers and ammo types
some people wants there to be many different calibers and ammo types ex. 5.56x45mm and
more indepth mechanics when it comes to bullets
some people want to keep the simple “Military/Civilian” types with “low” and “High” caliber types
and want to keep it as it is
Im all for more indepth features like Bullet calibers and more ammo types
Give the game more indepth/complicated features and mechanics
Keep the game at the same simplicity level as it is now
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If you chose the “Keep the game at the same simplicity level as now” comment why you think it is better to keep the system that we have now.
If the complexity actually improves gameplay then its fine, but nothing should be complex just to be complex. Just having 5 types of ammo would distill gameplay by letting you swap ammo far too easily as you can in 3.0, and would prevent progression as you can just use ammo you found in the lowest tier in the highest tier guns.
Looking back at games like Warframe specifically, it’s fine to have a certain level of complexity as long as it’s properly explained through tutorials (that preferably aren’t just a load of text).
Also, I’m unsure about the effectiveness of having a poll, since each person’s view of what’s simple and not varies way too much.
At this stage in development, Unturned II should be built so that Nelson, modders, and mapmakers will be able to add as much complexity as they might reasonably want. You can easily choose not to include certain calibers or to add a gun that shares ammunition with other guns even though their real world equivalents wouldn’t share ammunition, but it would be much harder to jam new cartridges into a weapon sandbox that doesn’t have a place for them.
Yes, with this post I just ment that i want unturned ll to be more indepth and have more complex mechanics then what unturned I has right now, ammo types and calibers was just an example of the kind of level that i would like it to be at when the game is starting to come together when nelson is done with the base/core of the game and can start working on more content for the game
I think that optional complexity for players to explore at their own pace would be best, either as how the mechanics simply work or as an actual game setting.
For example, modifying your car to fine tune it just how you’d like (such as by replacing the transmission). But when your car breaks down in-game and you’d like to repair it, you shouldn’t have to know how cars work IRL. Instead, having a high enough mechanics skill should just tell you what’s wrong and what part you need to find (possibly with a helpful image and description of said part?) and you can just replace it when you find said part.
Naturally there should also be tutorials, like Sirba noted, to explain/introduce the more complex mechanics for those who are interested. Making survival fairly difficult (enjoyably so, of course) and allowing players to just scrape by through casual playing is possibly a good idea, but allowing players to thrive through in-depth mechanics is likely a good idea. Be it automating the watering and spraying of pesticides on crops through wiring and logic, or outfitting an APC into a hoard-crushing machine, or even just reclaiming towns and building settlements for NPCs, complexity should be an option for players to explore and play with at their own pace.
I do think it shouldnt be as simple as now, but we dont need to change the order of bullets in a magazine.
Item names like “Ranger Magazine” or like in 2.2.5 “Savage Magazine” always gave Unturned this unique charme. “5.56mm” would fit into a hardcore military simulation, but not in a game like Unturned.
And I know its going to be more advanced and realistic (in some ways) but I think Unturned should stay Unturned in a way…
I don’t think having the option to switch bullet order makes the game more complicated. It merely adds an option to do more with the system. Its not like you have to choose the order.
Adding more and more features that you can do, but dont have to still makes it complicated as a player would always have that in the back of his mind, its not like someone would completly ignore it.
