me and zman dont really like each other but i do admit a lot of the things he said are true about the community, some of the admins in the official discord have a lot of flaws, some of them dont even care what happens in the chat room.
oh and he apologized for asking nelson to make his own anti cheat
what do you guys think, did he get anything wrong?
This is something I already spoke about on the server, but some of the people he spoke had misremembered certain things regarding the server (donāt personally know anything about the events he had with RP servers).
E.g., ā the poll bot was only reset once, after a candidate had 100+ people join and vote specifically for them. Iām fairly certain Danaby (and other applicable users) have been unbanned since January, after I worked with Discord to change and clarify on how verified/partnered servers have to enforce Discordās TOS.
EDIT: I know some of the things mentioned in the video are more accurate than other parts.
The first part is just a recap. Thereās a lot of things I donāt really like but what can I really do, I donāt have much involvement there so I donāt really have a care for the video. The only thing that bothers me is people coming in acting like some big shot demanding justice.
Like, this is just annoying. You arenāt gonna solve anything by digging dirt
Anyone with more than 2 braincells can understand the video was poorly researched. Thereās plenty of stuff you can use to criticize Unturned official, but unfortunately not much time was spent researching. The server hosting bit was also weird, gave me the impression zman doesnāt know how server hosting works.
Very little evidence was provided all around, and I find it hypocritical that zman is criticizing the state of RP servers when he routinely posts videos of himself harassing kids on said servers, contributing to the mess.
watched the vid, wow nice clickbait job there shame the actual content sucks
the first half of the vid is bashing UO discord staff for behaving like your average public discord server mods, which is honestly just as cringey as it sounds
the other half is bashing some RP server network (that iāve never heard of) for doing exactly what youād expect from a generic RP server network on a free-to-play game
this isnāt dark side stuff, this is just surface level lame drama played up as !!ThE dArK sIdE oF uNtUrNeD!!
cmon, thereās hours of way more interesting dArK sIdE content from the forums, reddit, and third-party discords that can get used for a video
Looking back over it, you technically werenāt banned as you had left the server instead, but the policy change was in January. For other users, itās an ongoing process but anyone interested in having their unban expedited can āappealā since Iām having the TOS changes be applied retroactively. The relevant policy change (for you) is that āsoft-NSFWā avatars (e.g., ahegao face) isnāt being moderated on avatars, only visually explicit and direct nudity.
What ended up happening is that itās been clarified to me what issues verified/partnered servers need to concern themselves with. So, hereās the current version staff enforce:
A.Sexualization of minors may result in a permanent ban of the user, and their account being reported to Discord Trust & Safety.
B.Promoting suicide or self-harm by a user may result in moderative action in order to protect the user and community, and their account will be reported to Discord Trust & Safety.
C. Use of self-bots or user-bots may result in a ban, and the userās accounts may be reported to Discord Trust & Safety.
D. The transaction of illegal goods, hacks, pirated software, or Discord accounts or servers may result in a ban.
E. Attempts to phish or spread malware may result in a ban.
F. Posting explicit NSFW content through messages or avatars, such as full depictions of actual nudity and genitalia, may result in a ban.
G.Evading server bans may result in an equal or extended punishment applied to the ban-evading account, at server staffās discretion.
H. Use of modified Discord clients may not result in moderative action, unless the user is promoting the use of them, or using them to perform other offenses.
These are the changes as specifically written for the server teamās staff to reference. Any server can still choose how strictly they choose to enforce/interpret Discord TOS, but the main things that are a legitimate concern to Discord are points A, B, and C. Servers are still expected to enforce other issues, e.g., certain slurs/vulgarity, but these were issues that were relevant to my inquiry, and reflect issues that players have tried to appeal permanent bans over in the past. Usually, Discord will contact the owner of a server that is failing to enforce certain issues sufficiently, but I know in the past there have been servers permanently taken down without warning.
āIām gonna blur this guyās nameā proceeds to show name unblurred a few seconds later āIām glad I didnāt show his name because I donāt think he deserves any form of publicityā
Honestly not on the discord so Iām not sure how in character any of this would be, all I know is itās really easy to doctor screenshots, so Iād be doubtful unless I could read the og post.
As for the rp stuff, nothing strikes me as big news, I have always been baffled about how blatantly p2w servers have an active playerbase, but I donāt personally play a lot of rp so Iām not very invested in the issue.
Going into the video I thought it would be complete cringe, it wound up being less cringe and more boring, most of the information I would consider common knowledge, discord mods aināt always pleasant deal with and rp servers tend to be scams.
Final Verdict: Title is borderline clickbait imo, standard internet hissy fits played up as āthe dark side of unturned.ā
The good shit:
Editing was pretty good
Overall was well formatted
If the dude found a better topic I think he could make some entertaining videos
you have no right to say that yarrr when Iāve had to consistently fight an uphill battle to find out why my posts were being deleted. of course people want to know why you did something, you guys are moderators, they have the right to know.
- = SDG THEATER = -
- = SHOWINGS: = -
THE DARK SIDE OF UNTURNED ....... 1:40 Pm
EATING CORPSES ....... 7:40 AM
ANOTHER SHITTY SUGGESTION BY RAIN ....... 1:00 Pm
TBH ....... TBH
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Honestly, I heard the dark side of unturned was going to devolve into a nightmare considering I know how the forum gets so go and sip on orange vanilla coke and grab your bucket of popcorn cause shits boutta hit full speed
Thatās different, because youāre involved in your own problem that had little information to why it happened and so there is nothing wrong with you or another person on your behalf inquiring whatās up.
What Iām referring to are random people outside the server who only see a video or read from second hand information before going in as self-employed investigators when the incident has already been resolved/disclosed, or rather to diss on the people involved
I have to know why community Unturned Discord server ads get removed and are ānot allowedā because there isnāt an Unturned server linked to itā¦ While there isnāt a single sentence that says we canāt advertise it?
This happened like 3 times to me.
I also advertised an Unturned Discord server that actually had an Unturned server, and it also got removed.
I personally like the mods, but some can be a real d*ck in the Discord server itself.
Personally, I think that when you talk about that specific moderator, it is completely true, I do not understand why they are so unfriendly people, as if they were annoyed all the time.
And the fact that they are always the same ones seems even weirder to me. Apart from the fact of the abuse of power they have when they donāt like something.
If I get banned after making this personal criticism, then I will be very disappointed as I am not doing anything wrong.