Melee Suggestions

Unturned II U4 Discussion
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I think Melee should serve more of a purpose in PvP (yes I know 4.0 will be more focused on survival, but I believe PvP will still play a big part in the survival element), right now there’s no point at even trying to fight anyone else because melee combat is just so awkward. Here’s my suggestions to improve it:

  • First of all, and most important of all, a lock on mechanic. If we don’t have this, fights will remain just as awkward. It’s simple, just press a button while looking at your enemy and that will lock you on to him. Moving around while locked on will make you go in circles around him (except for forward and backward which will act the same). There should also be a button to switch between targets that are close to eachother.

  • Second, blocking attacks. If you’re not stunned, and you press the block button at the right time (I believe this should be right click, which would act as a heavy attack when you can’t block and as a block when you can), you don’t take any damage and the enemy gets stunned for a little bit, allowing you to hit him back with a light attack.

These two are the most important ones. With these you can already have a more pleasant melee combat experience. The following ones aren’t as necessary so they don’t need to be added, but it would (in my opinion) improve melee even further.

  • Third, attacks can be influenced by how you’re currently moving. For example, moving forward while attacking will make you lunge forward. Going left/right will attack from the side and target your enemy’s guts. Jumping would make you do an air attack, targeting your enemy’s head and possibly stunning him for a bit if you’re using blunt weapons. (This would require a lot more animations to be made, and although lots of them could probably be reused, I can see why Nelson might not want to add this, as he is basically a one-man army and it’s just way too much effort.)

  • Fourth, different weapon types cause different effects. Blunt would stun more and have a chance to break bones with heavy attacks, Sharp would cause bleeding for a short time and if the durability is low can make your enemy sick (as in the melee weapon is rusty and hitting your enemy can give him tetanus, would give a small advantage that wouldn’t really outweigh the disadvantages), Spearheaded weapons would do more damage in general. Punching would have no additional effects.

  • Fifth, Dodging. This would be simple, double tapping one of the movement buttons would cause you to dash in that direction, allowing you to dodge attacks.

Aside from improvements to melee in general, I think guns should be rarer, and if they’re gonna be craftable they have to have some downsides like breaking really easily unless you have a really high crafting skill. This would make melee a lot more useful early game, and would make adding such systems even more worthwhile.

As for Zombies, I think these systems can be reused, but there should be basic, no lock-on attacks that would be good enough to deal with them, so that if there’s a horde of zombies you can still manage and take them down without having to lock on to a single one of them.

I would like to hear what you think about these, and give your own suggestions.

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This seems a bit too complex. From what it sounds like fighting would be more For Honor-esque as in it’s very single target and centers around dodging attacks and hitting your opponent based on movement. I don’t see a system like this working well in a game like Unturned.

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I agree the third suggestion is quite a bit but I don’t think the rest is that bad. These things aren’t only present in fighting games, with locking on being even in GTA games, which I’d argue is the opposite of a fighting game.

As for the single target argument, most melee combat is that way and even when it’s not I suggested a button to be able to switch targets too, so even though in that situation you’d want to run away as you have basically no chance you can still fight, utilizing stuns from blocking attacks to hit other enemies.

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" too complex "
its heavily casualized melee combat, theres nothing complex about it

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We don’t need a “lock on” mechanic.
We don’t need dogding in the way you described it.
We do need blocking.
I think directional attacks should be like in Clone Drone in the Danger Zone.

I think all that has to be done to fix melee combat is to make melee weapons do damage while while it is being swung, so you can hit multiple enemies with one swing. I’m pretty sure this would fix the hitreg problem (I think).

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1.Dear god no. If you are good at a game and have good “aim” you will have good cursor placement and win the fight. The person who has bad aim with the melee weapon will lose. Your idea doesnt just lower a skill gap, it removes it. Fights are akward because people strafe, as they should. Hopefully attacks will have sweeping arcs of damage instead of just a dot though, as that is the main problem with 3.0s melee.

2.Planned iirc

3.Would be pretty neat to see

4.Yes please!

5.A little unnecessary but sure, would add a twist

Keep in mind that almost everything you have suggested (except for the first and third one) have been suggested many many times. Its always nice to see new peoples perspectives on it but there is a search function for a reason

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A metal folding fan so I can name it the “Fan Club.”

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I dont mind locking since in reality if you melee fight you wont look like a retard running and punching air. You would be locked at your target and punch at him, unless he dodges.

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