Would official servers promote pay to win?

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Okay so first of all this post was made months ago. It’s not guaranteed this is still accurate

@RainOfPain125

I’ve came across thousands of hackers.

This is a very, very large number. 2000 or more hackers? Sounds very exaggerated to me

@RainOfPain125

Not sure why you’d not want rocket perm stuff? Admins don’t need a bunch of abusive unnecessary commands or abilities. Which is why Rocket is so great.

Well first of all. The servers are gonna be vanilla. Rocket mod is not vanilla. Also saying that rocket is great when just the other day you talked a lot about how rocket gives Sven a massive power boner and lets him control all the server seems very, very odd to me. Please be more consistent in your opinions.

@RainOfPain125

Assuming official servers might hold around 48 players and will be constantly popular you’d need quite a few more than 1-2 staff members for all of the official servers, let alone one of them.

Here I think you need to re-consider a staff members role for a vanilla server non rocket. It’s not something where you have to have staff ready 24/7. In vanilla the worst stuff that really happens is hackers and exploits. There won’t be any rule breaking other then that as there won’t be a need for rules other then that. Sure if a hacker comes around it’s nice to get them banned asap. But you won’t need a staff member on every minute to make sure no hackers are on. There could be a forum for reporting and then staff could investigate that.

@RainOfPain125

It must certainly and undeniably would become a problem. Kids will complain about abuse even if there was none. If you’ve ever hosted a server in your life and people were well-informed that you were staff and running around killing players they’d raise a few questions.

Another thing here, which I will talk about in the next segment, commands such as god and vanish are not really gonna be needed for a low maintenance server.
God, /back, vanish, spawning in stuff and teleportation are the things I mostly see when someone complains that a admin is abusing. And if you remove rocket a admin can only do two of these things. Spawning in and teleportation. Now if Nelson has a console log that you can easily search in then all off these could quickly be checked. A admin wouldn’t accidentally be in god or vanish if there is no god or vanish. Once again these people would have to be trusted by Nelson and those people come in very rare supply, and a place for reporting admins could exist, other then just someone checking logs.

@RainOfPain125

And of course there would be /god /vanish and etc, these are literally the most basic things that should’ve been apart of 3.x but were not

Now I’m gonna have to stop you right there buddy. God and vanish is useful yes, but they are also some of the most ludicrously op commands. You could be in god or vanish and not even notice it. I’ve been staff on multiple servers and it has happened. These are commands that only real use in a vanilla server is admin abuse. There won’t be a need to have these commands, you won’t need it to check player names with a spectator camera, like the one we have now. You won’t need it to talk to people thanks to the wonderful thing called chat. And you would be just fine if you used spy.

@RainOfPain125

Another thing that nelson should definitely implement and will be upset.

Glad we can agree on something, logs that you can easily search through is needed for server management.

@RainOfPain125

There are definitely, evidently by 3.x not going to be a lot of ‘good’ or ‘suitable’ (atleast in my own opinion) community servers. People are complaining about an over-supply / inflation of servers in 3.x yet, as said, I can not find a suitable server just to chill on.

I can’t say I relate there. There has been plenty of fine servers in my experience, and some, like froshington completely vanilla. It can take sometime to find a good server yes but I personally think there is plenty of fine servers.