If you don’t stir stew your food won’t all be cooked, or you’ll have wasted a ton of water waiting for the heat to reach all the food and it won’t be mixed well enough to get the same nutritional benefit from each serving.
Pepper and garlic powder, on the other hand are just for taste.
I know
But the point I was addressing was to not make cooking have it’s own unique mechanics that make it look like a completely different game
I’m not a culturist so I don’t really know that olive oil can be made with a handful of olives. One thing I’m pretty is sure is that apples (and other fruits you’ve mention) aren’t grow from bushes.
Unless you were talking about a different type of crops that can be harvested repeatedly but takes time longer to grow.
Also, I don’t think spices should added. I mean, who cares about tastes when the world is ending outside. Now I’m not saying that it’s a bad idea. But I’m also not not saying that either.
“He who controls the spice controls the universe.”
I left my 2 cents on the topic when I just joined this forum.
Now, in this one, there’s some stuff I just generalized, forgot to mention or overlooked by the fact that Nelson’s who decides what to implement.
Somewhat recently I played an event in Don’t Starve Together that was entirely focused on cooking, called The Gorge, which gave me pretty interesting ideas for this topic and a clearer perspective of how I should have made my first post.
Taking that as example, I guess that having 3 basic cooking stations just like in the event (cookpot, oven and grill), plus the pretty basics, would keep things pretty simplified. Adapting it to Unturned it should be like:
About the rest:
I’d agree with the idea of oil for cooking, but many players would find this annoying, and I’d rather want to see common types of cooking oil instead of just olive oil.
If this is going to be a thing, I’d like it to be just once or twice while the meal cooks after some time has passed. Anyway, just by letting it cook and taking it when ready (burning if not) would be much simpler.
And about all the ingredients you suggested, I think that we shouldn’t speculate anything yet, since cooking is such a complex theme. Also, condiments and spices IMO are useless without a sanity/psychological status system, or at least something that tells there’s a downside on forcing my char to eat something that it doesn’t like.
I’d like to see a customisable cooking surface. Like, an oven top that you can boil water on, and different types of cookware, such as pans for frying, and saucepans and pots for boiling water and things in. (I’d also like to be able to boil water on campfires, as well).
I’d personally implement a kind-of “cooking station” that you can build and customise for whatever you want to do with it, so you can build up a little kitchen with a functional fridge for preserving food, cabinets and counters for storage, and you can place pots, pans, and saucepans on the oven-tops (if you hovered the mouse over a hot plate while holding a pot or a pan, it would give a green outline of the piece of cookware, and if you clicked then it’d place it down). Also, maybe if you clicked on whatever thing you wanted to use, such as a pot, then it’d give an overlay menu with all the things that you could do, or if you clicked the oven then it would give you all the things that need the oven to craft. So, crafting things that require certain crafting elements for them to function (especially with cooking) would be a really nice addition for 4.0.
That’s going a bit too far. Keep in mind that you’re playing Unturned and not one of those cooking games on Miniclip.
An interesting part of this post is the fridge idea. Being able to salvage a fridge from town would be very cool, but in the new inventory system it would be even cooler if fornitures (or generally big objects) would have a dedicated space in your inventory, where you’ll be able to store one of them at the time only.
The character model would also change and a fridge (in this case) would appear on the players back, so you won’t just be able to store N types of fornitures in your bag.
Same thing with tables, sofas, chairs etc, and this will also count when you craft them. Special fornitures like ovens, fridges, washing machines (clean dishes could avoid that small radiation damage that you could get by eating in dirty ones) should not be craftable, but instead they should be obtainable only by looting towns.
I think that it will be a nice addition.
Where did their backpack go?
Why not just have backpack frames be the only clothing with a big enough “pocket” for furniture and have it visible through the “holstering” system displayed in the Devlogs?
Why would you carry a fridge on your back? Are you trying to crush yourself to death? How could you even manage to move that back and forth between your hands and your back?
Well, if you carry the fridge with your hands then you won’t be able to fight. Yea you could drop the fridge, fight, pick up the fridge again and repeat, but I think that it would make things a bit clunky in terms of gameplay.
In my opinion, having such fridge on your back (maybe tight with a rope idk) would be fun to see, and could bring a more challenging mechanic compared to the hold in hands one, cus your stats will be affected by it. The player could lose speed, stamina, mobility, maybe the ability to prone would be removed, and you would also jump lower.
But yea, also seeing a fridge coming out of your backpack could be fun to see, but the stats thing should still be considered.
I don’t think it should be tied to your back. You should be able to drag it with your hands, or a rope you tied around it. If you have a friend or someone who is friendly, they can help you carry the fridge into your trunk if it is big enough. Maybe of your roof if you tie it down.
All of this seems a bit anti-fun tbh. (Edit: “all of this” = the ideas around fridge transportation in general)
(Edit) To clarify: I like the idea of it, but as a game mechanic that’s quite questionable. Kinda confused how, out of all the ideas in the thread, this one is being honed in on.
I’d personally keep the mechanics around it… “game-y” in fashion. Arbitrary weight systems for the inventory. Slower speed when overweight. Force people to place things after they build them, even.
If you wanted to get more realistic, add a dolly that can be used to move things in general (even after placement), without weighing you down.
Yea but as usuall, this disadvantages solo players. How will they be able to do it?
Solo players = no fridge? Are you telling me that hermits players like me won’t be able to drink a
cold beer ever? Why do you hate me? /s
I think that having it tight with a rope on you or even making it peak out of your backpack (in both cases, the stats debuff should be a thing) are the best solutions.
Honestly this game mechanic should be something extra, that in a matter doesn’t have to do with the regular weight system.
Lets assume that high tier bases could use this special furnitures as an endgame goal, where players would be able to use them to improve even more their place; In that case, this “loot a fridge kinda thing” would be an additional game mechanic that is thought to add an extra challenge to endgame players, adding this mini-forniture-looting-gameplay thing that imo could be even fun.
About a weight system, ofc if you get overweighted then you’ll become slower but this fridge thing has nothing to do with that, it will be like this by design.
I’m fine with the crops we have for the most part, I just wanna be able to do more with them. Currently Potatoes and Carrots and Corn are useless. Lemme fry an egg, bake a potato, juice some carrots, and boil some corn. Nothing supurbly advanced, but just simple recipes and basic cooking for what we have already…
3.x needs more recipes to go with the food that’s there already.
We don’t have any crops in 4.X yet. It’s no easier to readd the same crops as were in 3.X than to create a new set of ingredients.
I’m aware, I’m just saying we need a topic in #unturned-3 for more food recipes with existing ingredients.
Likely out of context but this is what I’ve thought of.
The point is, that these ideas are good cus what ever you find, you’ll be able to maximise it’s effects
