Thats pretty much what I was thinking. I have nothing against craftable bows or maybe some really simple rifles like the makeshift one in 3, but I dont think you should be able to craft full-auto assault rifles. Also craftable guns do have to be worse than in 3. The makeshift rifle in 3 is pretty much identical to the hawkhound or schofield.
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Actually, it was just a worse schofield. It broke in 100 shots, was missing a tactical slot, I do believe it had slightly worse range (That might be wrong so donāt quote me on that). But I digress.
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I usually never go for stats or which guns is technically better, I just go by experience. And for me there no difference really
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You could craft a lot of ammo for it though.
But regardless, more advanced makeshift weapons, in my opinion, should definitely be feasible, just take more time and resources than a slamfire pipegun made from a pipe and a nail. However, rifles should definitely be limited to manual or repeating actions and only up to full-sized rifle cartridges, while automatic weapons should be limited to just pistol rounds due to the inherent weaknesses in a blowback design.
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I never really played on normal mode anyways, so thats why this didnt affect me at all
the makeshift rifle/schofield is a starter gun and doesnt require a tactical slot. I mean, you usually wont have useful tactical attachments before having a proper gun. And even then, they dont do that much of a difference anyways
The schofield has a range of 200m while the makeshift riflesās range is 175 , so slightly lower. I had to look it up because I didnt know it myself
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The makeshift rifle might be slightly worse, however it should be significatly worse in my opinion. The fact that we are debating on if the gun is worse or better just proves that its not bad enough for a crafted gun.
Well the schofield isnāt exactly A tier itself. But I guess this argument is pointless. (As in youāve won)
iām pretty sure no civilian guns are A tier
Play on normal itās actually good.
Edit: I would love to see a normal mode raid done.
I have uploaded multiple normal mode raids. The reason to why I uploaded easy ones mainly is because normal mode raids are way too time consuming for me to upload one every day. Even one single easy server raid took me about 8 hours, from starting to look for a server that even has raids to uploading the video on youtube. Later I decided to only upload live raids which made the process even harder.
Belts and pouches and things for body armour/holding shotgun shells/etc would be cool too, to be made from leather as a counterpart to the military versions.
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*solvent traps
The ATF would like to know your location
Makeshift weapons are a great idea, any and all post apocalyptic game should have one. Unturned has had and should continue to have them.
Please, read the rest of the conversation before responding to a reply.
Windows! Every single type of window ever! Stained window, double glazed windows everything, THE LOT!
speaking of pillows, i saw an episode of gumball where he got shocked with a taser and a pillow he was wearing absorbed the shock
theirs is a lot of shit you can do with pillows apparently
maybe even fuck it
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i just want me to craft a good LBT sandwhich
Your point beingā¦?
Why would you not be able to craft full auto guns?
Harvest linked the rest of the conversation because P9nda stated that he is fine with crafting makeshift weapons (with some exceptions, although the exceptions arenāt relevant to Harvestās post), but your reply made it appear like this wasnāt acknowledge.
Acknowledgement = good, even if itās a bit redundant. Makes it look like the conversation is at least going somewhere, and not repeating itself every five posts. People understand each other better.
Regarding full-auto specifically, which wasnāt Harvestās point, probably balance/functionality. Personally, Iām fine with a slow full-auto makeshift rifle, since on-top of that you already have a ton of makeshift attachments/components being used for the gun, and probably makeshift ammunition too.
Honestly though, a makeshift semi-automatic rifle/carbine is the most straightforward thing to add, and then just allow players to expand upon that a bit with different makeshift parts potentially.
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I read 100% of the replies, my point still stands. Semi would probably be the best, but I donāt see why we could not have auto ones provided they are harder to craft.
Iām not sureā¦ All you need is a spring in the clip, then a mechanism that pulls back and forward quickly while you hold the trigger (possibly using the explosion from the bullet at a sort of āpower sourceāā¦ Or you could use a battery like airsoft weapons use) Anywho, you could make burst fire probably a lot easier. Which is close to automatic.
The most someone could make a is a blowback automatic weapon, effectively limiting it to pistol rounds or maybe intermediate rifle rounds if weāre pushing it.