stop talking. be quiet for several days
Well, not necessarily. Muzzle velocity doesn’t translate directly to more tissue damage, the fact of the matter is that subsonic ammunition is still lethal enough to kill someone.
Yeah, well, I was just saying that there are suppressors made to reduce muzzle velocity that have been barely tested, that doesn’t mean I support the idea that they should be the predominant form of suppressor. I think you’re talking to the wrong guy here, I’ve made it pretty clear that I support subsonic ammunition and don’t like the idea of reduced damage in general, just reduced muzzle velocity and more bullet travel time.
Well, that’s certainly a move I haven’t seen before. Telling the other side to just shut up. You know, you still haven’t rebuked me on my point that suppressor use isn’t as common as you’ve described it to be, and certainly not on low damage weapons. Instead, you’ve resorted to agreeing with a post that you’ve taken to be making a point against mine, but instead actually has more to do with my point than it does yours, and telling me to “be quiet for a few days.”
If you would care to actually make defend your point instead of repeating the same stuff over and over again, I’d be more than happy to engage in civil discourse, if not, then I’m pretty sure this debate has come to a close.
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Probably because in rust you can just craft a suppressor after you find one initally where in U3, most of us had to go out and loot for them.
Not sure if this fact will change in U4, but if it does I MIGHT agree with a slight damage penalty due to the idea of silenced snipers or marksmen weapons blowing a hole in someones head silently from 300m out
No 25 is so much something like 10 or 5 % is ok or more bulletdrop like in elver
…am I banned from vibing with my ASVAL or VSSk?
Increased bullet drop might be viable, especially since UII has significantly lower base bullet drop.
If there are other barrel attachments which offer their own benefits having suppressor work with no downsides can work just fine (Elver is a mighty fine example here imo).
In 4.0 though I would expect there to be caliber specific supressors, and that dictating their performance along with ammunition used. Balancing variables here being rarity of attachments for certain calibers, supersonic ammo being not as quiet as subsonics with a supressor, availability of subsonic ammo and finally downsides of subsonic ammo like decreased velocity and as such more drop.
One can only hope lot of those things I mentioned will be possible in 4.0 but making suppressors just ‘reduce damage’ feels primitive when considering everything else.
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Generally speaking:
A supersonic round made subsonic will lose penetration of armour and wall, drop faster and have a shorter range.
This would introduce a niche for subsonic integrally suppressed weapons.
Smart boi right ere
I personally like the idea, but the damage Reduction should be decreased 25% to 11%, and all types of suppressors should silence 100% of the bullets you shoot out.
What do you think?, do you agree or disagree with him?
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What if we made suppressors suppress the sound of a gun, NOT reduce damage, bullet velocity or drop, but instead have them be really rare and fragile. But that’s a pretty standard idea nothing new at all. They’re still making the gun better in every way.
So what if they could explode after a certain threshold of damage? let’s say at durability 40% there’s a 1% chance of the suppressor exploding and damaging the gun and stunning the player (or damaging, whichever one is more preferenced). That 1% grows exponentially as durability goes down, so at 30% there’s a 10% chance and at 10% durability there’s a 60% chance, something like that.
Doesn’t have to be explodey, can be something completely different but that’s the kind of downside I’d love to see for specialist attachments like the suppressor. Those kinds of attachments are really good, but very unpredictable.
(Another example could be the laser pointer for guns. Maybe they need a battery and if the laser is on for too long of an amount of time, the laser, for all intents and purposes, breaks.)
Maybe the explodey suppressor could even jam the gun? I see many possibilities with an approach like that.
Zero damage reduction
Durability yes, but suppressors should still last a decent time
Realism for realism’s sake is bad. Balance comes first. Everything is SUBJECT TO CHANGE!
if there are no disadvantages it is not fair for people without suppressors
If you dont like my solution that’s fine!
The point of that post is for you to change your approach to the downsides.
Maybe come up with something on your own without the usual boring “less damage silent gun” stuff.
Perhaps suppressors aren’t attachable for some guns?
Just something creative.
find a good gun and loot it for hours and it’s obvious that it’ll before better than a gun you just found
Less damage is not what i had in mind i was thinking of more bullet drop or loss in range
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