Gun Talk

Even a .22 CB could kill you if it hits you in the right place. Hell, even tripping over badly and hitting a rock has killed people. having a wider or deeper wound channel increases the amount of the body that is hit, and therefore statistically increases the odds that something important will be caught in the volume that is hit and subjected to the kind of trauma (with an A not an E) that breaks it. Rifle shots are only more effective because they have more energy to break more stuff, hopefully vital stuff, by penetrating more, expanding more, and causing more to stretch to the point of breaking so hopefully something important will be broken.

That much I can agree on.

Rifles are objectively better than pistols in almost every aspect except for compactness, weight, and close range effectiveness.

Case closed.

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“Close range effectiveness” is a bit unspecific, so someone will say something like fully automatic rifle fire is always more lethal than a single pistol bullet, and this shit will start all over again.

shhh, don’t give LeMa even more ideas

Its not an idea what rifles are better at close range its a fact

Have you ever heard of a shotgun, my friend?

Okay, back up your fact then. I’ll take nasically anything at this point.

Except we arent talking about shotguns or any other weapons except pistols and rifles

I gave you plenty of points but you chose to ignore them. Bigger bullets, faster bullets, faster fire, more ammunition, more accurate, better range, sturdier grip.

No counter terrorism force uses pistols, but they do use rifles when engaging combat.

Those are your claims, now where are the facts to support them.

Moving goalposts. The point is that rifles are not flat out superior to pistols, especially when we are talking full size battle rifles and CQC.
Yes, more often than not they take carbines or SMGs into CQC. They will literally neevr take full size (battle) rifles into CQC intentioanlly. Yes, they will still use them in CQC if they have them, but they will never intentionally equip full size (battle) rifles for CQC.
Hell most fo the SOF/CTs are not even issued fulls iez rifles, let alone battle rifles.

.45 Long Colt is interchangeable with .410 shotshells. I rest my case.

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That statement alone tells me you’re not credible.
Pretty sure every modern counter terror force use a pistol.

My city’s SWAT team have pistols with them all the time, along with the rest of their gear. Maybe not only SWAT but, every police and military force ever.

I said when engaging combat. They have pistols as a SIDEARM. Read my comments properly

You are too stubborn to believe that rifles fire bigger bullets and faster? Pretty funny considering you claim to know a lot.

I just told you they are. And yes they will, like I have shown you. And they still dont use pistols but rather rifles!

???

They use whatever they have and need when engaging in combat.

They certainly use a pistol when their rifles are unable.

Those are for revolvers… not pistols…

Use the Quote function by the way.

You’re multi-posting.

You just said it yourself… its called a SIDEARM, and they NEVER USE IT, when their rifles work properly

Taking by what you say in your replies, engaging combat is rifle always working. :thinking:

What