i think recoil shouldnt be so smooth but instead be more jumpy/rugged because that would be closer to how it is in real life.
also, i think that when you run for a long distance, you should start to breathe heavier and have your gun sway some etc.
two more things. first, bullets shouldnt go through water. in real life, bullets dont go through water more than a few feet at most because water gives back the same force that it’s hit with (try punching a pool and youll see what i mean). I think this could be cool but ultimately it seems like one of those details that would just make the game less fun.
lastly, why do cars block you from being shot? I could understand if you shot the engine and it didnt go through, but cars are thin sheet metal, so i think the ability to shoot through car doors etc should be added. Maybe even being able to shoot the gas tank and having the car slowly lose gas unless you blowtorch it? not sure if thatd be necessary.
Not all guns have harsh recoil IRL.
Although I do like the idea that running around could make the player short of breath, maybe it could also lower their oxygen bar.
AKs don’t have a particularly high caliber, certainly not the ones chambered in 5.45×39 mm, not that caliber (the diameter of the bullet) directly affects recoil.
bro im for real just saying make the ak have more recoil, aight? also the majority of them use 7.62x39, 5.45x39 is for 74s, not 47s. Currently if you add a vert grip and a muzzle break to a zubeknakov, you have virtually no recoil and can full auto someone from 100+ meters away. I simply think that the ak should have more recoil than the glock.
and it also has a bigger round. AKs (in 7.62x39) are notorious for having a pretty harsh kick. though pistols in general do tend to have quite a bit of muzzle rise even compared to rifles simply due to the nature of the platform.
as for the OP, i like the idea of some guns having harsher recoil. obviously something like an AR15 platform gun would have pretty smooth recoil, while maybe an M14 or even AKM would have a pretty harsh jump.
That’s bull. An AK firing a 7.62 round is going to have infinitely more felt recoil over a Glock. Not only is it firing a much harder round, but think about the first fucking law of gravity. Equal and opposite reaction. Therefore all the weight in that stock is gonna kick back right into your shoulder, every time you fire your gun. That glock will do the same to your hand, but far less. It weighs less and fires a much smaller round overall.
Muzzle climb also would be higher due to each round being ultimately bigger. The weight difference really doesn’t cancel that out. Practically the only way you’re gonna make an AK have less recoil/felt recoil is by welding it to the ground, or converting it to fire a lower caliber such as 9mm or .22lr.
There’s a very good reason why the Russians decided to go with a much smaller bullet, with less power behind it.
How about a semi .22 pistol vs a .357 (both I’ve fired). You wanna tell me the .357 has less felt recoil and muzzle climb because it weighs more than the .22 pistol?
Cause believe me, it doesn’t.
The more mass an object has, the less energy it takes to accelerate. Imagine you were trying to push a boulder into someone, it would move so little they wouldn’t feel it. Now imagine you’re trying to throw a stone at someone, you could seriously injure them.
Hence the adage “if the gun is as light as the bullet, it’s gonna hurt as much on both ends.”
My problem isn’t that an AK doesn’t have recoil, just that not all of that recoil is muzzle flip. I wrote felt recoil before because I am an idiot.
I’ve personally fired both a SKS chambered in 7.62x39 and a Ruger P95 chambered in 9mm. The SKS weighs over 8 pounds and the P95 weighs less than 2 pounds, by the way. The kick that comes from the SKS would be enough to make your arm sore the next morning, while the P95 has hardly any; however, when shooting the P95, the muzzle rises more than the SKS because it is lighter, and unlike the SKS, has one place to hold, making that spot a pivot point for it to rotate around. The thing is, even though the muzzle rises more, it is very light and easy to maneuver, so it comes back down very quickly. The recoil only has an action on the gun itself, it does not blow you back or cause your hands to rise. The SKS is heavier and not as easy to move it wherever you want it, as well as actually having a good amount of kick. This causes you to actually be blown back some, and the gun rising along with your hands and body some. In conclusion, while the muzzle of the Glock might be affected more than the AK, the AK affects your body more, making you “look up” as you would in game when shooting.
Imagine you were trying to push a boulder into someone, it would move so little they wouldn’t feel it. Now imagine you’re trying to throw a stone at someone, you could seriously injure them.
ah, i see someone who hasn’t learned about momentum yet.
a very big object with a small amount of velocity can have the same force as, or an even greater force then, a very small object with a very large amount of velocity. this is basically because momentum is equal to mass times velocity, which is also equal to the object’s net force times delta time. the real determining factor is the time in this regard.
this has been useless physics lessons with whistleblower the ■■■■■■■
…time is…how long the object is moving for…why would you even think it’d be the cyclic rate or the time it takes for the round to leave the barrel? it’s a basic law of physics.