[LONG POST]Discuss about the gun and other systems

I have many complaints about 3.0, and 4.0 should be 10x better than 3.0, but it’s just an opinion.

Anyway, let’s discuss about gun system.

I’ll talk about many things, please read!

First topic, “Buff and balance Pistols.”
In 3.0, you already knows, Pistols are shitty weapons compared to the other guns.
To prevent this in 4.0, I’ll suggest these things:

First: Make pistols’ draw and aiming time faster, and rifle makes it slower.
This thing will improve the pistols’ mechanism, make pistol more useful in CQB situation.

Second, Increase a pistol’s damage.
This will make pistol better against bandit. Like: Heavily-Armed man can be killed by a pistol-carrier… So if you have aiming skill, you can wipe out every bandit with a single pistol.

And people will know that “Full-gear is not always strong, sometimes weak, or maybe is bad.”

Why we should add it? Well, Fully-Armed, heavily geared bandit can “dominate the entire server” or be a tanker and kill all enemy in sight. For now… Pistols are trash as hell against bandit.

Second topic: Mechanism

First: Make every single semi-automatic(including pistols)or Burst-fired guns fire without delay.

3.0’s Semi or Burst-guns have few seconds*(0.5sec) of delay and it causes limited firepower.
So in 4.0, Every semi or burst-fired gun(even with Automatic gun with Semi selectors) should be fired without delay.

Second, Every guns should be 1-bullet headshot.
Don’t worry, there’s the way to balance it.
Buff pistol seems to be good, but if there’s no one hit headshot, there’s no way to fight against Heavily armed guy easily.
Just make every gun useful.

third: Make a hitbox for helmet and improve the helmet’s mechanism.
No, but seriously. Sometimes we need to protect bandits.

Make a hitbox for helmet, and make a helmet bulletproof for some bullets (not for sniper rifles’ bullet.)
But there’s a catch, Helmet should protect the bullet for only 3~5 bullets.
And if you get shot by face or forehead, not the helmet, you’ll die immediately.

fourth: High-recoil for automatic guns.
3.0’s gun recoil is very easily controllable, so if there’s the high-recoil but moderate-controllable recoil, it should be fine.

Recoil control and aiming skills would be a pure skills to fight… Just like the America’s Army: Proving Grounds.

Note: I hate CS:GO’s spray pattern supporters or Random recoil supporters.

Second note: Recoil and gun’s actual accuracy should be separated. Like the gun’s Minute of Angle stuff.

Third topic: Skill system
Especially guns. In 3.0, there’s the experience that upgrade your skill.
But that’s unrealistic. Does fishing or chopping the tree would improve your aiming skill? NO!

So I would suggest:
Make experience real experience.
Punching zombies would increase overkill
Shooting will increase your gun skill
Diving will increase your diving skill…

And so on.

Sorry guys, I have more idea to improve the game but I have to sleep now… yawns with rawr

Bye, i’ll discuss with you when I saw your comment.

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yawns It took me 1 hr and 24 mins to write…

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It took me 1hr 24 min to read…:frowning:

Also, I think you should read up on pistol calibers, only 1 can really pierce armor (5.7). I do want the semi auto glitchy semi from 3 to be fixed for 4, but no. Pistols are weak for a reason.

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.22 fmj does

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Making Unturned into Arma or R6Siege doesn’t seem like the best idea imo

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Pistols main advantage is that they are compact. If you want something that is powerful and/or controllable get a bigger gun.

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Apparently bigger gun is not always better in real life.

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You sure about that? /s

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Unturned 2.0 4k

Imo Realism eventually brings balance and fun if it’s based on the start.

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You mean 4k res?
I dunno what you mean by

Many people think pistol is useless against Automatic weapons, but half is wrong.

Pistols are good at draw-time, easily pull and shoot, small, and have a decent stopping power, even IRL.

So today, that’s why pistol is popular in US

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I was replying to Great Hero J but it seems that I’m not really lucky today with the icon showing that I’m replying to a specific message.

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Huh… It is not a luck stuff…

They only have good draw times, because they’re compact enough to fit in good holsters.

Being less expensive to repare/maintenance is a good + aswell

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I don’t think we’re going to do a whole lot of shopping in Unturned…
Nvm, thanks for clarifying.

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(Just for reference, the icon doesn’t show up if your post is directly beneath the person you’re replying to)

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But the way you described it isn’t realistic. You said a fully geared guy, which includes, hmm military armor? And most pistol rounds can’t go through military armor. Any personal defense armor actually.

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Actually what? You still didn’t get the point.
That’s just an example. And soo yeah, do you even know what is the Mozambique Drill? If you can’t kill the enemy with the first two rounds, just shoot them to the face!

And that’s why I suggested helmet system and 1 bullet headshot.

[IF YOU CAN’T PENETRATE THEIR ARMOR, FINE THEIR WEAK SPOT.]

Same logic as War Thunder… Well veteran will shoot the head if they aim well
But n00b won’t.