Lucifer Effect is a big issue: ideas to reduce it in Unturned

[RainOfPain125]

Now to actually address what I see.

@CapoFantasma97

Teamwork based Actions : actions that require the need of another player. This could be done by making some critical healing items much more efficient when another one is applying it to you and for a selected few even mandatory (after all having someone else is objectively better than self medicating when dealing with wounds or broken bones, and a few medical procedures can’t be done alone), locked loot rooms that require 2 players to open (the classic double keycard doors), lifting upside down vehicles, cooperative building, heavy/big items lifting and carrying, etc;

Nelson would not approve of this, at least in my mind. He wants the game to be just as enjoyable and full of content as it would be for someone in a 30-man zerg or a lonesome freelancer survivor (atleast from what I think). Though I made a post regarding team-based work and the “evolution” and development of civilizations in Unturned II (which nelson liked… so its nice to know he’s probably thinking about it). Though I think it is neat.

@CapoFantasma97

Ability/Crafting Specialization done well : if there will be a skill or craft learning system here too, surely one can’t get everything. By placing a proper cap on the maximum “allocated points”, having a small group is beneficial as each person is able to specialize in one field, like vehicle repairing, crafting heals, and so on. For this purpose, I don’t think that combat based skills should be a thing, or if they would, they should be handled separately from the “utility” ones. It would be just annoying having to choose between having a steadier hand when shooting or crafting a piece of transmission to repair the group’s truck;

I always loved the idea of players not being able to be “super soldiers” and recently I made a post to sort of counter that regarding genetics. I heavily dislike games where everything can be maxed out, especially in Unturned 3.0’s case. I even made a post about how I think ‘maxing out’ things could be avoided by making experience and traits more Exponential instead of in a Linear fashion - which would be a viable alternative to what you’re suggesting (you suggest points and having a cap, while Exponential would not exactly introduce such a cap). But I agree with most points.

@CapoFantasma97

Less focus on Long Range Engagements : sniping from a kilometer away doesn’t give any satisfaction for anyone. Maybe the shooter in the boredom, roofcamping. The game can be more focused on closer interaction without being detrimental for sniper/scout/marksman players. Instead of putting 8x scopes, make up to 4x. I see the ballistics idea in the wishlist and that’s nice;

I agree that lowering long-range capability would obviously bring players closer, and would give them the chance / opertunity to conversate or reason. But as said in my earlier comment, high looted players are too scared and too looted to bother being friendly (usually). Also I never really use any scopes higher than 4x lol.

@CapoFantasma97

Make Sharing Items easier : sharing is caring. Avoiding too many ammunition types makes the same bullets easier to use with more weapons that can be found around. As there’s an incredible amount of bullet standards, the idea of realistic ammunitions types maybe should be avoided, or it would be detrimental to weapon variety too. Just think how russian rifles have different calibers than the world standards. So maybe it could be like Heavy, Medium, Light, Shells, Precision bullet types, color coded and with varying models. Which would be even more pleasing and in line with the generally unrealistic style of the game. Splitting stacks should be quick and easy. Instead of dropping items, there could be a “trade” function, where it opens up a trade window, which would make sharing items easier, quicker and safer. After all, to give the car key to your friend you don’t throw it somewhere near him so he can pick it up, you give it to him directly.

You want less ammo types? I think more ammo types would encourage more sharing. Players in groups would find all types of different ammo, and would trade with one another. Though this doesn’t have much at all to do with being friendly - as purely random people definitely won’t be trading anytime soon. I never trade with randoms to begin with.

@CapoFantasma97

Applied in a simpler and not annoying way in Unturned, when a player dies and dies only, most of their items in the whole inventory should get applied damage.

Huh. Sounds sorta neat, not sure how well that would go, though.

@CapoFantasma97

This means that hoarding weapons and powerful items is much more difficult and that players need to actual scavenge, repair and so on instead of just spraying someone and grabbing their stuff.

Why would this stop people from ‘spraying’ or hoarding stuff on them? You spray someone, they die, their loot gets damaged. You snipe one-shot head-shot someone, their loot is still damage just as equally as before. That wouldn’t stop spraying. Also, carrying tons of things and having their be degraded on death isn’t an inconvenience for you, it’s an inconvenience for the player that kills you - but you portrayed it as if it’s supposed to be bad for the player hoarding.

@CapoFantasma97

Secondly, having a speech bubble briefly hover above someone’s head when chatting and using quick messages would greatly help with quick reaction

I’d rather not have a big floating bubble on my head for players to see while being stealthy. Sometimes I work with nakeds and I can’t talk out loud so I must type.

@CapoFantasma97

Frankly, abuse of global chat can be quite annoying too and ruin the immersion, to which maybe it should be set a small timer between posts to reduce traffic.

Although this of course makes sense, global chat is obviously fundamental to how servers work and is necessary. There are already plugins to prevent chat spam (IE, a small timer between posts)