Medicine [Long Post]

[MoltonMontro]

Doesn’t that apply to… literally everything …though? :V

Or just cooler stuff? I guess we don’t really get “Admin Fishing Rod” mods for U3, since a lot of people don’t fish.

[anon67155151]

Is there actually a modifier for how fast you catch a fish in the data for fishing rods?

[MoltonMontro]

No. Catch speed is determined by the bar that moves up/down as you're about to cast the line. If the bar is full, you'll hook a fish quite quickly. If the bar is pretty low, then not so quickly.

I can’t remember the actual numbers. 10 seconds for a perfect bar and 30 seconds for the worst possible cast.

Upgrading your Fishing skill makes the bar move slower, which lets you more easily max out the bar.

An admin fishing rod would basically just be able to use its own spawn table for fishing, similar to the Upgraded Fishing Rod, and give vastly better loot.

It wouldn’t even need a custom spawn table. Just make it give horde beacon loot or something. It could use any item spawn table, really.

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@Number_one

The problem with any advanced medical system’s addition to Unturned is that the negative effects can easily be negated by committing suicide, albeit at the cost of skills.

Could also just never remove certain penalties even after death, such as how Swamp Fever works (worked?) in Ark, but that just seems like a nuisance at that point.

Definitely would need to just make death actually threatening, which is a point made in many threads (and by you, immediately after the bit I’ve quoted).

[Sirba]

@RedCo

Bruising
Caused by blunt trauma from weapons such as baseball bats, police batons, and other blunt weapons. Bruising will reduce the overall maximum health by 5%. Strikes from blunt weapons will have a 10% chance of inflicting this effect, and disregards all types of armor, as the energy from the strike itself is transferred through any armor and into the flesh under it. Bruising would heal by itself after 24 in-game hours.

@RedCo

Gangrene
Afflicted limb must be amputated within 24 ingame hours.

Well that escalated quickly

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On a more serious note tho, isn’t gangrene too much (unless we get epic style bionic replacement limbs)

[Sirba]

They are people of culture I see

[Dylan]

@KingFrog

Gangrene

Afflicted limb must be amputated within 24 ingame hours.

I seriously dont know why so many people want amputation in UII. I will find it very annoying AND Im not a fan of amputating MY OWN FUCKING LIMBS

[linkfanpc]

Old topic but meh.

So as a serious Long Darker it’s nice to see some inspiration being taken from such a masterpiece of a game. Good on you! And so since i have some experience with these afflictions,

@RedCo

Bleeding
Caused by slashing or puncture wounds from sharp weapons, such as knives, swords, chainsaws, and other blades, with a 100% chance on slashing and 20% chance for stabbing attacks. The player will slowly lose health at a rate of 1% every second, with consecutive slashing or stabbing attacks stacking the effect up to 5% every second. This will be the primary effect of bladed weapons, with comparatively low damage on strike compared to blunt weapons, but causing large amouns of bleeding trauma. In additon, sprinting will open up wounds even further and cause an additional 2-3% blood loss. Treated with rags, bandages, and dressings. Certain types of armor will negate slashing attacks.

All of this is good.

@RedCo

Cabin Fever
Caused by spending the majority of five in-game days indoors. Will prevent the player from sleeping indoors for 24 ingame hours.

Oh absolutely not. That is a mechanic specifically made for TLD and TLD only due to the way the game works.

@RedCo

Bruising
Caused by blunt trauma from weapons such as baseball bats, police batons, and other blunt weapons. Bruising will reduce the overall maximum health by 5%. Strikes from blunt weapons will have a 10% chance of inflicting this effect, and disregards all types of armor, as the energy from the strike itself is transferred through any armor and into the flesh under it. Bruising would heal by itself after 24 in-game hours.

Eeh, seems like something that would fit a game like TLD better. TLD is a slow-paced game all about dealing with huge, permanent, self-inflicted wounds and penalties, this just doesn’t fit Unturned, since Suicide instantly fixes everything whereas in TLD being a permadeath singleplayer experience you have to live with it, and same goes for everything below excepting:

@RedCo

Frostbite
Caused by extended freezing of a limb over a period of time. Can be prevented by wearing proper cold-weather clothing or staying indoors in a warm environment. Frostbite to the arms would result in increased sight sway, and frostbite to the legs causes decreased movement speed. Can be treated by warming the limb. If the afflicted limb or limbs is left frostbitten or rewarmed and frozen again, gangrene could occur.

I like it!

@RedCo

Fracture
Caused by falling from a height, or by blunt weapon trauma. Blunt weapons have a 0.5% chance to inflict a fracture. Fractures to the arms prevent players from using double-handed weapons such as rifles, and fractures to the legs result in the player being unable to sprint or jump. Can be treated with a splint and avoiding physical extertion for 72 ingame hours.

While fractures should be a bit worse than now, i think this is a bit too much.

Another idea is that splints instantly heal a fracture, but you can only have one splint on a limb at one time and they take 20-30 minutes irl to disappear, allowing you to apply another one. So, if you fracture your left leg, splint it, then fracture it again, you have to wait for the Splinted debuff to disappear to splint it again. Unrealistic, but feels balanced to me.

So yeah, good ideas but don’t fit Unturned too well.

[lusod]

I would also like a more advanced medical system. I’m a pretty large fan of Arma 3, and me and my friends of course have the advanced medical mod (Ace Medical). And it’s really nice having different types of injuries that can be treated in different ways. But I don’t think the medicinal system should be too advanced in UII as it will probably confuse new players. A more indepth system would be really nice but not too indepth. And I think that fractures shouldn’t force you to stop using a gun, but instead (similar to Ace Medical in A3) make using the gun much harder. More, constant, sway and higher recoil.
Another thing is that you shouldn’t have to wait too long between treating a injury and getting over it. It would really suck getting a fracture and having to sit in your house for 3 in day days. But being disabled for a while because of a broken leg or similar would be nice.