When 4.0 INEVITABLY has everything I warned about

Democracy = Hypocrisy
:thinking:

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By reading the Road to Serfdom, and observing history through the 20th Century. Despotism under Marxism is an inevitability. Don’t you know that @Pesticide? I’m speaking politically and philosophically for once because Rain injected literal Communism and even mentioned Marx.

Marx has been disproven by every non-Marxist philosopher of his time and even after his life. With the best Anti-Marxist arguments come from the Austrian School of Economics, and especially in Mises and Hayek, with Böhm Bawerk and Menger laying the ground for Mises and Hayek, in my opinion.

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well yeah obviously
Marxism is on the belief that the government controls everything, and despotism is the belief that a single person rules over the government.

The two go together and you have yourself a good ol’ fashioned shitshow

Nah I think rain did it for a joke
I won’t harp on him for that one…

unless he actually injected Marx into his post…
which if he says he actually injected with the actual purpose of communism in unturned, he has lost all of my respect because it is a horrible, awful and no good idea

@RainOfPain125 please,
Get off your socialist high horse and actually respond i must know weather this is a joke or not

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Why are everyone crying about P2W Server. Just don’t play on them like me.

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Yes, it’s this simple. P2W servers tend to die the fastest anyways. @Teemo

Yeah it’s really simple xD. The P2W servers will die if more people do it than we do. I don’t understand why ppl get upset about that. The solution is so simple.

" Thoughts on paid plugins for a free game?" Really? just don’t buy any Plugins if you think they are overpriced. Code your own and done.

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man i wish i knew who these people were

I don’t want to be to political, especially on a forum about a fucking zombie block game, but that’s really not an ok thing to say. I know you probably did it for comedic effect, but some places have limits, keep those kind of jokes to the people you know are okay with it.

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why do you have this compulsion to insert your extremely bizarre and obsessive special interests into every interaction? why transsexualism and communism of all possible narrow fixations? this is extremely cringe and weird, but you lack in the empathy department and cant realize that.

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Nelson has a long history of making anti-consumer decisions. Refer: Sven. Not gonna tire myself debunking the rest considering you don’t know what you’re talking about. Also lots of confirmation bias.

Red Herring

I surely pulled it all out of my ass without any basis on past historical events on Unturned 3.0 and what Nelson has historically done.

This is still genetic fallacy, because you’re implying just because I’m seeing things from an ideological standpoint means those things aren’t as valuable or credible. You continue to attack with this fallacy through the rest of the comment.

Nelson didn’t learn his lesson, because RMOD has been confirmed for 4.0by @Trojaner

says the unironic fascist who chills with an unironic nationalist

this is the big funny

My servers were nowhere near my political ideology, not sure where you pulled that except your ass.

I was one of the first ever players on EarthMC, back when it was Fix and Karl. Infact, if you go far back enough in my Reddit post history you’ll find me advertising the server - because nobody was playing it. Similarly to Unturned, I’ve watched the EarthMC community continue to go in a downward spiral to the point where I’ve been banned from EarthMC for trying to eliminate toxicity, while players who use bigoted language and only play to make it harder on others get away untouched. Unlike EarthMC, I don’t think I need a ban to realize it might be healthier to just quit interacting with the unbelievably toxic community.

Thats also funny, because me and my group has just got into Civ. That’s where the screenshot comes from.

and countless other philosophers and economists have dissected and critiqued the ideals of capitalism and have disproven it by using various tools at their disposal.

If you weren’t so toxic about it, you could totally join my community of 300 members that is built around the discussion and education of Leftist and Anarchist Philosophy, Praxis, Theory, and real life. You can ask to join privately, in a DM, since I already ‘broke’ you.

quote circa 2020, SDG forum turns to fascism in a radical rejection of democracy and democratic values.

And I don’t agree with Marxism either. To assume all leftists are Marxists is a boneheaded argument. You’re neglecting an entire quarter of the political compass like it just doesn’t exist lol.

The Conquest of Bread is essentially a criticism of traditional Marxism whereby Peter Kroptkin suggests a radically different, diametrically opposed way of trying to achieve a Communist Society through decentralization, flattening hierarchies, no vanguards, no shitty states.

Why are all these leftists crying about capitalism? Just move to Venezuela!

Don’t like capitalist society? Just go out and build your own society. Why so entitled?

I don’t need to play the game at all to make an educated, thorough analysis of what characteristics and contradictions Unturned 4.0 will have similar to the ones that 3.0 had. I have the beta, but I didn’t need it to formulate these inevitable conclusions.

bigot? Good example of why I gave up on this forum.

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I thought I already said I wasn’t going to douse fuel into your fire. Can you all just excuse yourselves or something? I’ve given up on blocking people since I can’t block them permanently. Thanks @Yarrrr @MoltonMontro, you really increased productive discussion by forcing me to see the same batshit bait unproductive comments by the same exact people that I have to reply to or else it looks like I ‘lost’ the ‘argument’

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liked for this

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inb4 thread lock because its “unproductive”

its almost as if I have no control over these people coming in and shitting on my post.

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Symptom of the larger circle jerk/hive mind/toxicity of the Unturned/Closed Circle community. Though a persons actions aren’t fully excused. Trying to prove that you’ve changed is the hardest part.

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Leaving the Pineridge Discord is a very good first step, just a note for everyone reading.

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Not necessarily, if you’re trying to escape hive mind mentality, then yes, if you’re trying to escape circle jerk mentality, leave the Forums/Unturned Community all together.

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Lets both leave and go chill on a beach or something fun. Because this isn’t fun and honestly I don’t think its ever been fun. It’s degrading if anything - degenerate, if you’d like to call it.

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For sure, tbh I’ve just kinda stopped interacting much on the forums. I only really respond to “big threads” that I can some what contribute to, or threads that don’t exactly relate to Unturned, such as the “Fav Youtubers” thread. I don’t really ever comment on your threads, since most unique takes are drowned out by what you can see above. Not to say they’re wrong, but rather that I don’t feel like I can add much to the discussion.

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There isn’t much for me to add to the discussion on my end either. Replying to these people seems pointless because the answers to their crap is literally so obvious to me, it honestly gets infuriating, tedious, annoying, relentless. Essentially every big thread I’ve ever made gets drowned out by unproductive nonsense, “haha rain” memes, and shit retorts that are just ad hominem’s.

that beach is starting to look hella nice.

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Yeah it is a nice beach.

Tbh, it kinda is pointless. You’ve already explained your position, you’d just be repeating yourself at that point. Might as well just quote where you’ve explained your position.

To quote Nolan, “People shit on him, then he acts out, then people act like this wasn’t expected, then they make a big deal about it.”

I do enjoy talking to you Rain, even if I don’t agree with you, it’s interesting talking to someone who has a different perspective.

There have been zero reports coming out of this topic. Staff would be able to react quicker to trouble posts/users if the report button was used by anyone who has had to read such inappropriate posts.

EDIT: To clarify, I’ve cleaned up the specific post that’s been quoted a bunch now. Earlier, staff removed several other shorter posts.

EDIT 2: Reports should also be made regarding title editing / category switching if you ever feel it wasn’t done in good faith.

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