When 4.0 INEVITABLY has everything I warned about

[RedCo]

Rain, Copernicus believed that the Earth rotated around the sun, and everyone thought he was batshit insane.

You are not Copernicus, because you do not have the benefit of the future. As of now, you currently only have the past and the present.

As with all people, Copernicus made a mistake in his deductions. He believed that the sun was the center of the universe, which, again, with the benefit of the future, we now know is false.

I understand that you may very well have blocked me, and as a result may not see this, but at no point during this discussion have I attacked you personally in regards to your politics, your intellect, and your character. What I have, however, is pointed out certain flaws within your argument, as well as how your inherent bias may affect the way you view topics from a personal standpoint.

With that being said, I implore you to please formulate a proper counterargument in response to my argument, as while you have struggled to ward off personal attacks, you have failed to convince anyone why exactly you are correct and why the actual, legitimate arguments are wrong.

As of this point, all you have done is refer to my first argument as a confirmation bias and reply to personal attacks, and yet still, you have yet to reply to any of the legitimate posts that criticize your viewpoint.

Please, Rain. I want to believe you. I really do. I want to believe that you see something that all the rest of us don’t, that we’re blind to what’s happening and that Unturned II is going to be plagued with the issues you have described. But unless you’re willing to engage in civilized discourse, then I don’t think you can convince anyone that you’re right.

So please.

Prove me wrong.

[anon67155151]

@anon69713377

he generally tends to

But…he didn’t this time…so why are you complaining about it in a thread where he didn’t do it??? Its just irrelevant.

@Effectism

literally the top post.

Are you talking about the obvious meme? Because its a meme.

@anon69713377

AND he’s being dismissive to anyone who criticizes the substance of his arguments

So then talk about that instead of century old economists? Asking for elaboration, or looking for elaboration would be far more productive than talking about some money dinosaurs

[danaby2]

ok so i found out who did it. it was orendi (idk if he has an account on here)

[RainOfPain125]

@RedCo

I want to believe that you see something that all the rest of us don’t

Sure, we could talk about it privately. Theres no good use in me trying to be serious in a post hijacked by people that aren’t being serious. If you’d like to actually learn, you’re more than welcome to discuss over Discord.

Check your inbox.

[Effectism]

what about this post is serious? is it a meme or is it serious? pick one. the moment this becomes “serious” is the moment you admit you inject your unnecessary political opinion into serious posts. it is the moment you yourself become guilty of non productive ad hominem verbage on a serious post. choose wisely.

[AstronautPug]

All these suggestions from Rain have been serious, but Rain’s refusal to take criticism has forced the topic to devolve into a massive pool of memery.

[Effectism]

a phenomenon older than these forums themselves

[Lance]

oh thank god sven isn’t working on the new rocket mod, trojaner did all the work anyways so good on him

[Aden]

I hate myself for multiple reasons now and part of it was reading this thread oh god

/s

[SDGNelson]

Evidently we have opposing viewpoints towards Sven. Overall I’m convinced that Observatory did more good than harm, and when the Discord became “official” its control transferred from Sven to a democratic moderator group.

Regarding the plugin APIs: any plugin that’s currently implemented using RocketMod could theoretically be implemented as a game Module. Rocket itself is a game Module, no longer an injector for several years. For a long time I ran a “community Module” that anyone could submit code to include for plugins in the core game, but there was next to no interest. In particular, recent features are designed with Module extension in mind. For example mods can easily extend the console handler for RCON or extend the workshop update monitor to listen for special items differently.

There’s not much point in being drawn into a big argument, but I did feel it was worth clarifying those points.

[anon73161152]

@SDGNelson

democratic moderator group

[Raieus]

hello how many hours for unturned 2 key???
i am bought gold dlc

[Pesticide]

@RainOfPain125

a radical rejection of democracy and democratic values.

Its okay rain really
were really happy not to accept some Democratic Bullshit, but only because everyone knows how bad it can get. I mean fuck just look at reset era and how lefty they are

@RainOfPain125

Nelson has a long history of making anti-consumer decisions.

How it feels to tell my friends

@RainOfPain125

but this is just one facet of the anti-consumer, anti-player things that I am talking about, and I make these posts to shed light on them, then get shit on,

So which card you gonna pull out now,
Oh that’s right the victim card because you put yourself in the spotlight and you cant handle the shit

@RainOfPain125

and then don’t have the time or mental capacity to deal with the endless toxicity, aggressive memes,

Please don’t fuck me Pepe
don’t fuck me with that alt-right ■■■■ Pepe

@RainOfPain125

harassment, stalking, death threats, doxxing, impersonation, abuse, and other things that I’ve endured.

Man your really using that victim card to its fullest ability
Fuck Off with that. Like im going to buy the fact you’ve been threatened and doxed, Impersonated and Abused. Your really taking that lefty fucking road to hell.

@anon69713377

I can’t believe I was going to be your friend, Rain.

No offense dude, but this is like the Elementary School Debate point

@RainOfPain125

TL;DR Nelson (and by extension the entire community) aren’t learning from prior mistakes and negligence’s that occurred during 3.0, so those same problems will re-occur in 4.0.

Rain, Thats all you had to fucking say. Just say the problems that occured in 3.0 will also occur in 4.0. Dont make a fucking shitpost reintroducing your old dumb topics that people disliked.

[KingFrog]

Honestly why are y’all getting political. It’s just a videogame. A BLOCKY ZOMBIE SURVIVAL GAME which y’all are getting political and pissy and all acting like cry babies over. Of course I didn’t read all 94, 300 word replies but seriously. The forum isn’t made for this.

[anon69713377]

I agree @KingFrog. This whole thread was a disaster and shouldn’t have been made.

[AtleSt]

Got an email from the forum telling me about recent happenings on this forum, so i checked it out. fricking heck, what happened to this place? it warms my heart seeing how many of you stuck around here, but why the toxicity? can’t you all just take a chill pill and try to have a productive discussion please.

idk, just wanted to chip in and express how i felt. (sorry if no one remembers me)

[anon69713377]

You can blame Rain for this mess, @AtleSt. He was the one who started it and was the one who escalated it.

[Effectism]

in case you hadnt noticed this is a meme in the meme category. maybe if rain had wanted us to take his post seriously he shouldve made a proper serious post. he has no ground to stand on here. this isnt a serious post nor does anything productive have to happen here. this is meme territory.

[RainOfPain125]

the mental gymnastics used to justify why my arguments are invalid or wrong are olympics-worthy.

[Effectism]

there arn’t any gymnastics. thats ad hominem. very rude, rain. this is a meme thread in the meme section. do not complain and cry about us “not taking you seriously” because we are not obligated to. post in a proper thread if you want to cry wolf. you do nothing but speculate- based on history, but speculation nonetheless. economists have predicted 12 out of the last 3 recessions, after all.