Now, before I show you what I’m suggesting, I’m going to paint a picture of the current situation regarding inventory in 3.0, namely its main caveats and issues. In theory I will also provide ways that I aim to fix these issues with sectionalized clothing in 4.0. If Nelson is up to the task of coding this, it would be a massive step in the direction of realism that all of us have been aiming for. Without further ado, here we go:
In 3.0, inventory has some huge problems:
There are people that complain there’s too little inventory space unless you have a backpack
On the other end, there are people who complain about realism issues with the current inventory (e.g. fitting an entire Hell’s Fury into your cargo pants, or shoving a Grizzly into your Police Top)
Generally space values do not make much sense - the way you are able to store lots of things into a shirt, or a vest that has pretty much no pockets, or putting an assault rifle into a pair of shorts
Rather than storing specifically things like grenades, ammo, and small arms, military clothing is often just used for general storage of anything in general, including things that are a tad redundant like industrial generators
The Solution
So, if you’ve played 3.0 for a while, which I assume you have, you can probably relate with at least one of the above problems. How do I suggest we fix this? Introducing…sectionalized clothing!
Inspired by the inventory system of Escape From Tarkov, this intuitive system solves virtually every existing problem with the current inventory system, while at the same time being compatible with parts of the old system, as well as both grid space and weight systems.
It’s more realistic, reasonably balancing what you can store in certain clothing. You can’t fit an entire rifle into your cargo pants anymore, but if necessary, Nelson can overall increase the number of pockets, so you can store more things in your cargo pants while not being able to fit outrageously large items
It allows for definition of intended use. The vest for example, is intended to store things like magazines and ammunition, which it can now do well without worrying about large items.
It’s compatible with weight, for all you 2.0 fanatics, and it can also coexist alongside the existing 3.0 grid-space system, so any disadvantages can be nulled
Backpacks will remain the best clothing in storage space, and won’t have to be divided into different pockets (although they can be.) Shirts will be nerfed depending on Nelson’s preference, because it doesn’t make sense that you can shove a Honeybadger up your T-shirt
It shifts balance completely. Like in other traditional shooters, it should be difficult to carry a large quantity of primary weapons such as assault rifles, LMGs, and sniper rifles, and this will do just that.
It supports modular storage! This means, for example, being able to add on more pouches and satchels to your MOLLE Rucksack, like you can IRL, for more storage that can be taken off in a jiffy. You can maybe even combine multiple individual pieces of a military uniform for an added bonus in storage (for example, combining a military vest and military top with all the combined rigs and pouches)
This can also carry on to storage objects. Potentially huge implications in the future.
Congrats! You made it to the end.
I’m interested in seeing your feedback for this. Thanks for reading!
This is exactly like escape from tarkovs system, which is really nice and would be a great addition, but people might get triggered for copying (I’m not). Also, in your drawing I think you should highlight the boundaries.
Very good, you provided a good argument and explained the reasons it would apply to both the people who want more storage and the people who want it more realistic. I believe this should be used.
I’m kind of against this idea; with item stacking we’ll be able to carry more in clothing we wouldn’t be able to fit guns in, so it seems a bit redundant. The idea would complicate inventory management, without adding much benefit, IMO.
Well, thing is, this system in EFT actually works in tandem with weight. So if you’re concerned about balancing stack hoarding, weight will solve anything over the top.
I’m not worried about balancing stacked items, I trust that measures would be taken, but splitting the inventory up by article of clothing, and then splitting each article of clothing into a half dozen oddly shaped pockets doesn’t seem to offer much benefit, but has the obvious draw backs of making inventory management a pain. I don’t necessarily think the inventory should be as simple as possible, but any added complexity should add atleast as much as it detracts from the game.
It really isn’t a pain. Not all clothing will have pockets like this (in eft’s case) only the chest carrier has these pockets. It is kind of like your quik slot suggestion.
Again, while you are somewhat correct, bear in mind that this is just a concept. If Nelson sees this and takes heed of it, things will probably be altered. I just have the storage the way it is in the concept art just to illustrate a point, and I honestly doubt things will get too ridiculous (like having to search individual pockets on the clothing of a dead body in order to loot it, cough cough EFT).
I’ve seen a bunch if suggestions regarding ths topic, but you take the cake. Well-organized and logical.
And yeah, we can all agree that EFT’s inventory system is very realistic and balanced at the same time, not allowing people to stuff guns like rice in a turkey. I believe you forgot about the stacking ability so you won’t have to put 8 shotgun shells in each slot only.
Here’s a balancing detail that I would like to add. Only backpacks have the 6x2 space to fit a Grizz or a Timber. And only the Ruksack has the 6x3 (Minigun) empty space, so that if (by any chance), you found a minigun, not anyone would be able to pick it up and store it. Same with snipers on non-military backpacks
It is kind of like my suggestion, but in my suggestion it worked with quickslots and the holstering system mentioned in Devlog 6 (and I sort of bundled it with a crafting/attachments idea, but that isn’t and wasn’t really related) while this suggestion is just breaking up the inventory to make carrying somethings less convenient. I don’t think this suggestion would be game breaking, but I feel like it’s a little too basic, and no one is actually added much to the idea in the comments (not that what was in my suggestion is necessarily what is needed)
